Carter replies to Cuban students
CUBAN university students challenged former President Jimmy
Carter over the benefits of “Western democracy” in a round of
questions at the end of the statesman’s lecture, “The United
States and Cuba: a Vision for the 21st Century.”
University of Havana Rector Dr. Juan Vela gave the floor to
law student Miguel Fraga, who told Carter that he had
listened carefully to his words and would like to reply.
“We live in the 21st century, and live with the consequences
of an unjust international economic order, and a democracy
that does not guarantee peoples the most minimal rights to
health and food, talks to us of freedom and human rights.
What is your opinion?” he asked Carter, “is it possible to talk
of democracy without social justice and equality of
opportunities?”
The former president virtually repeated the ideas expressed in
his address, replying that he had tried to explain the
differences between both countries and the two systems of
government as clearly as possible.
Through The Carter Center, the former president noted, his
wife and himself approach the problems of human rights in
their totality, and in Cuba, on visits to different places,
accompanied by President Castro, they had seen tremendous
demonstrations of human rights guaranteed to the people:
the right to health care and education, and these are truly
incredible achievements, they have attained very difficult
objectives that other countries have not reached.
He reiterated that he and the Cuban president have their
differences over the totality of those rights, and cited among
them the right to elections, in terms of the U.S. system, or
that of the Catholic Church to have private schools.
Carter observed that his visit and the presence of U.S.
students in Cuba are the cement for future relations and
highlighted that the great majority of U.S. people, including a
majority in Congress, would like the freedom for U.S. citizens
to travel to Cuba (a right that various governments have
wrested from its citizens; during his presidency, Carter
himself lifted the restriction on travel to Cuba, but it was
subsequently reimposed by later presidents).
Chemistry student Daniel García returned to the theme of
democracy, which in Latin America “has killed millions of
children from hunger and disease and whose governments
have embezzled their peoples’ money,” and asked him if this
was his concept of democracy.
In his response, the former president cited the Varela Project,
a document drawn up by counterrevolutionary elements that
was refuted by some of the university students who spoke.
He also reiterated that he had perceived great progress on
the island in terms of public health, which had prompted his
intense admiration.
He recalled the meeting on May 13 at the Latin American
Medical School and how Cuba, poor as was, has more than
2,000 doctors serving in other countries, something that no
other country in the world can boast.
The former U.S. president expressed the view that relations
between the two countries are at “an impasse”, but that he
hoped that there would be progressive change, that the
United States would take one step, that Cuba would respond
with another, thus leading to a new round of mutual efforts.
CUBA, AN ISLAND POLITICALLY AND GEOGRAPHICALLY
José Luis Toledo Santander, dean of the law school,
commenced by saying that it is a tribute to justice to
recognize part of the work of the Revolution, which has been
ignored for over 40 years by those who have tried to destroy
it. In his view, that was the source of ignorance about the
Cuban institutional system and the functioning of its
democracy, which establishes free elections every five years.
Hassan Pérez, president of the Federation of University
Students, expressed thanks to Carter for the opportunity to
express his ideas, representative of many in his generation.
With his habitual eloquence, Hassan informed Carter that
Cuban achievements go far beyond the sectors acknowledged
and extend to different spheres. He refuted Carter’s concept
of peace, saying:
“For us to be able to live in peace, the blockade, which is an
act of genocide, is unacceptable,” and added that normal
relations are also needed.
He also questioned democracies in which less than 50% of
the voters go to the polls.
The student representative informed Carter of the existence
of five young Cubans unjustly sentenced and imprisoned in
the United States, and focused his question on that issue. He
voiced the hope that the U.S. government would act in a just
way and free those five Cubans, who had not committed any
act of espionage or intelligence whatsoever.
Carter stated that international opinion recognizes the
independence of judicial power from other levels of
government: the legislative and executive. And he added that
when it is proven that a person is innocent, or there is
evidence of an unfair trial, there is the possibility of
appealing to the higher courts, right up to the Supreme Court.
He said that he was not familiar with the details of the five
young imprisoned Cubans, but affirmed that they are entitled
to legal representation if they believe that they were unjustly
sentenced or charged.
For Carter, talking to Cubans in this televised dialogue was a
real demonstration that he had been tremendously honored,
and he added that he was extremely grateful to President
Castro for having invited him.
Moreover, he recalled Fidel’s words to the media on the
visitor’s freedom to meet with anyone he wanted to, to
criticize the system and to openly express his opinions.
Former President Carter stated that working for the
normalization of relations between the two countries
continues to be one of his objectives.
At the end of his address, the rector of the University of
Havana presented Carter with the University Medal, together
with a book listing the names of figures who have received
honorary from that teaching institution.