Senators split on Elian hearings
Joyce Howard Price
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott says the
Senate has a "commitment to have hearings" on the government's armed seizure
of
Elian Gonzalez, but Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Orrin G. Hatch
says his panel may not hold such hearings if "they're not
justified."
The two Republican senators appeared on separate
political talk shows yesterday and were questioned about the committee's
announcement Friday that it was indefinitely postponing the hearings,
which had been slated to begin this week.
Some Democrats in Congress, as well as some
pundits, have charged that Republicans on the committee have been scared
off
by polls that show nearly two-thirds of Americans support the government's
armed seizure of Elian.
An NBC poll, released yesterday, found that
62 percent of Americans oppose congressional hearings to investigate the
government's actions in reuniting Elian with his father, compared with
30 percent who support hearings to air the controversy.
At least one Democrat, Sen. Bob Graham of
Florida, who appeared on NBC's "Meet the Press," believes there should
be
hearings. "The American people deserve to have a full historic record
of what happened," he said.
Mr. Graham stressed that there are other Senate
Democrats who share his concerns about having heavily armed federal
agents raiding a private home at night and seizing a frightened 6-year-old.
The Immigration and Naturalization Service and the
Border Patrol removed Elian from the Miami home of great-uncle Lazaro
Gonzalez on April 22.
At a meeting Mr. Lott called early last week
to try to get answers from Miss Reno, "there were about as many Democrats
raising questions about what had happened as there were Republicans,"
Mr. Graham said.
Both Mr. Lott, who appeared on "Fox News Sunday,"
and Mr. Hatch, who also was on "Meet the Press," indicated the Senate
plans to investigate the matter.
"As a matter of fact, we've been asked to
hold an inquiry by the leadership of the Senate, and the purpose of that
is to get to
the bottom of it and see whether there was . . . an excessive use of
force in violation of law and whether the laws were observed,
especially the Fourth Amendment, [which protects] against unreasonable
searches and seizures in our homes," Mr. Hatch said.
The Utah Republican said the Judiciary Committee
"intends" to hold hearings "if the inquiry justifies them." But he said
the
panel needs to see documents and e-mails it has requested from the
Justice Department.
"We need to get all of that before we make
a determination whether to go forward or not, and I intend to get that,"
Mr. Hatch
told NBC.
Asked if this means there might not be hearings,
he said, "If they're not justified, I guess there won't be."
But Mr. Hatch said the hardball tactics the
government used to reunite Elian with his father "have really frightened
a lot of
Americans" and caused them to ask deep questions about their rights.
"Can this happen to any American family at
any time when the government or the attorney general just takes it upon
herself to
say, 'This is the way the law's going to be enforced whether it's right
or wrong?' " he asked.
On Fox, Mr. Lott said he has repeatedly tried
— and failed — to get a satisfactory answer from Miss Reno as to "why it
was
necessary to use force of that magnitude at a time when negotiations
were apparently seriously under way."
"I think that Congress has to, at least, look
at the institutional questions about what happened there. Was it a legal
act? I think
there's serious question about that. Even [Harvard law professor] Laurence
Tribe, who is not exactly your basic conservative
Republican, raised serious questions about that," said Mr. Lott.
He said he recognizes there is a "real feeling
of fatigue in this whole matter" and a desire by many "to get it over with."
"That's not good, either," Mr. Lott said,
adding, "We don't intend to have a long, protracted set of hearings."
The Judiciary Committee, he said, would hold
"relatively tight hearings and try to get some answers . . . to fundamental
questions . . . and then move on."
Asked if he can guarantee there will be hearings,
the Republican leader said: "We have a commitment to have the hearings.
But it is hard to go forward with hearings when the basic documents
you requested have not been received."
Nevertheless, he said later he believes the
documents will be forthcoming.
Regarding poll figures, Mr. Lott said: "We
don't make those decisions on the basis of polls. I don't think we should
shirk our
responsibility, even if people indicate they don't want" Congress to
investigate.
Sen. Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont, ranking
Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, told "Meet the Press": "I doubt there
will be
hearings. There shouldn't be hearings. My good friend, Orrin Hatch,
is the only man in America who can sit there with a straight
face and say that [Republicans] really want to go forward with hearings.
"These hearings were a bad idea," said Mr.
Leahy.
The Vermont Democrat also denied Republican
assertions that they still need documents from the Justice Department before
they can proceed. "All the documents are here. All the documents are
available," Mr. Leahy said on NBC.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein, California Democrat
and a member of the Judiciary Committee, said she's convinced the law was
followed by Miss Reno and others involved in the pre-dawn raid.
If there are hearings, Mrs. Feinstein said,
they should focus on the content of the immigration law itself and "whether
there are
injustices deep within" the process today that adversely affect people
from many different countries.
Mr. Leahy agreed with her. "Those are the
kinds of hearings we should be looking at, but not political hearings.
This has been
too politicized. It's been too partisan," he said.